http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/ en Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:22:11 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/ http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/senior-citizens-remain-active-and-take-vitamins-for-longer-lifespan-80707/ Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:35:13 GMT Senior Citizens Remain Active and Take Vitamins for Longer Lifespan Senior citizens have some unique requirements for good health. Men have unique requirements when it comes to supplemental ingredients as they have prostate issues especially in the later years. Women tend to require more... Senior Citizens Remain Active and Take Vitamins for Longer Lifespan


Senior citizens have some unique requirements for good health. Men have unique requirements when it comes to supplemental ingredients as they have prostate issues especially in the later years. Women tend to require more estrogen or other hormones which can be assisted by taking a good daily dose of vitamins minerals and supplements which contain plenty of vitamins A, C, D, E, and each of the B complex vitamins. The key to living longer and enjoying life is to get plenty of exercise along with a healthy diet and supplements as needed.

Vitamin D helps when sunshine is limited

Known as the sunshine vitamin because our body makes it when we are exposed to sunlight, vitamin D is vital to our bones and musculoskeletal system. Especially in the case of senior citizens whose bones are less dense than when they were younger, vitamin D helps strengthen bone, muscle, tendons, and prevents osteoporosis.

Vitamin A for eyesight and healthy skin

Sunlight and its damaging ultraviolet rays are responsible for many cases of skin cancer and that is a common ailment of the elderly. Skin cells are damaged or destroyed due to sunlight even as that light benefits us in other ways so we must protect our skin from too much damage from the sun. Taking daily vitamins minerals and supplements that boost the level of vitamin A and D in our system helps us get all that is required for optimum health and vitality without too much exposure to the suns harmful rays.

Vitamins C and E are antioxidants

Antioxidants are extremely beneficial to the human body, and especially so for senior citizens. They fight free radicals which are harmful to our body's cells as they deplete the oxygen supply going to each and every organ, including our skin. Assuring healthy cells means we can fight off heart diseases, cancer, arthritis, and cataracts. When healthy skin cells are damaged the results is first seen as sagging, loose, or wrinkled skin which gives one an even older appearance, and no one wants that if it can be avoided by taking good multi vitamins minerals and supplements.

Choose the right vitamins minerals/ for your health needs, some people who are deficient in some will require a nutritional boost for their particular condition whilst others may be nutritionally optimized for other vitamins.



By Heather Hemmings ]]> Supplements strongarm http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/senior-citizens-remain-active-and-take-vitamins-for-longer-lifespan-80707/ http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/abc-news-vilifies-creatine-80497/ Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:30:00 GMT ABC News Vilifies Creatine
by Chris Shugart


The media is at it, again, doing their best to vilify the dietary-supplement industry and eventually force stricter and stricter government regulation. They won't be happy until all that's left on the shelves is Flintstones Complete.

This time, the evil culprit is creatine.

ABC just did a piece on 13 high school football players who were admitted to the hospital for compartment syndrome, a condition where swelling muscles are compressed by the fascia, begin to deteriorate, and emit toxins into the blood.

"Doctors are investigating whether muscle-building supplements like creatine, common among high school athletes, helped lead to this," the report stated. It ended with a warning to parents about the "possible dangers" of unregulated supplements. "Compartment syndrome is often linked to creatine," the accompanying text on the ABC News website said.

Ah, you can just hear the lamentations of the uninformed now, can't you?

"Creatine is a dangerous, steroid-like supplement! Remember when it killed those three wrestlers back in '97?"

The real story? The wrestlers were trying to drop weight, as much 12 pounds in a single day. They were on creatine, but they also wrapped themselves in trash bags or wore rubber suits and exercised until collapsing... in saunas... while restricting fluid intake... and taking diuretics. Their deaths were tragic, but not surprising given those circumstances.

The final ruling by the FDA? Creatine was not a factor in these deaths.

The newspapers, including the New York Times, retracted their alarmist stories, but the damage had been done. Creatine was, forever after, "dangerous" in the minds of the lay public and the media. As Winston Churchill once said, a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.

And now it's happening again. And once again, they have the facts dead wrong.

The Facts

1. First off, according to ABC's own story, "...the players who were stricken with the symptoms said they hadn't taken any supplements." That didn't stop ABC from making the allegation and showing the same stock footage of creatine it used in 1997. One newspaper report did ominously say that some of the athletes "admitted" to drinking protein shakes. (Luckily, no one's kidneys imploded.)

2. The players, under the direction of new coach, Jeff Kearin, were involved in "immersion camp" — a period of intense practice where athletes stay overnight at the school. Some of the training involved exercising in a 115 degree wrestling room. (Sound familiar?) Water bottles were not made readily available, but athletes reportedly "had access" to water.

3. Creatine isn't "often linked" with compartment syndrome. Here's the full story: There were a couple of papers published years ago by a researcher named Pottinger that made the association. These papers were criticized due to methodological concerns, and Pottingger ended up leaving the university, reportedly due to these worries.

However, The American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) picked up on these questionable studies and made them part of their recommendations.

Follow-up papers out of UCONN found:

"A high dose of CrM supplementation during exercise periods of increased thermal stress showed a mild to moderate trend toward increased ACP measures in dehydrated males. However, our results do not support the American College of Sports Medicine's recommendation, because no associated symptoms of anterior compartment syndrome were seen. The differences were minimal, and the increased pressures readily equalized after intermittent exercise."

In other words, one guy thought creatine might have something to do with compartment syndrome. He was wrong and this turned out not to be the case according to follow-up papers. But like the wrestlers who "died of creatine" the misinformation was released and word spread.

Richard Kreider, PhD, who has researched creatine since 1993, comments:

"Isn't it interesting how people always speculate that a supplement is the problem when they miss the obvious: overtraining in hot and humid environments? Train kids in a 115 degree room so they dehydrate during an 'immersion camp' where they no doubt were training excessively (raising CK levels) all day long for several days leading to more dehydration, and the problem is creatine?

"Many studies have been done (since the early 1990's) that show creatine does not cause dehydration. If anything, creatine promotes hyperhydration — whole body fluid retention — leading to less thermogregulatory stress during intense exercise in the heat.

"It would be nice if coaches (and the media) didn't blame their poor and potentially dangerous coaching and training methods on a supplement like creatine that research has own to be safe and effective in a number of populations for years."

Final Thoughts

Creatine has been used extensively by athletes since the early 1990's and Olympic athletes since the 1960's. After years of being studied (creatine is in fact the most studied sports supplement in history), are we to believe that it suddenly has an adverse side effect, and that this side effect mysteriously manifested at the same time in 13 high school footballers who happened to be practicing together?

The superintendent of the school, Maryalice Russell, said she didn't believe the problems were caused by the type of workouts the players were doing during the immersion camp. Of course she didn't. That might lead to accusations of staff incompetence. There could be lawsuits.

Better to point the finger at a supplement, even if it has never been shown to cause this effect, even if the players say they weren't even taking it.



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PUBLISHED 08-24-10 19:16 ]]> Supplements liftsiron http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/abc-news-vilifies-creatine-80497/ http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/ph-megaplexx-im-curious-80433/ Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:08:35 GMT Buddy of mine mentioned it the other night, said some guys he knows are making/have made some decent gains. I have no reason to not believe him.

I know everyone says that compared to aas, ph's are garbge (comparatively speaking, cost to benefit ratios). But I've never run a ph of any kind, and it bothers me that I'm so quick to judge without even having first hand knowledge/experience.

So I'm tempted to try it and see what all the hubbub is about. I'm also terrible with chemistry, so I have no idea what these compounds are:

17b-hydroxy-2a, 17b-dimethyl-5a-androstan-3-1-azine 10mg
13ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2-5diene-17one 22.5mg*
2a,17a-dimethyl-17a-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one 7.5mg*
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-ene-3,17-diol 15mg*
Milk Thistle Powder and NAC 100mg*

Going around the long way (google) it seems that there are:

15 mg of Promagnon
7.5 mg of Superdrol
10 mg of Dymethazine
22.5 mg of Max LMG

This doesn't mean much to me, since I've never ran any of these, so I have no idea where these dosages fall....I know that they're less than the recommended amount for each compound if it were to be taken individually, but that's about it.

I already know all about liver supps, water intake, pct, etc...I have years of exp. with oral aas (dbol, tbol, var, winny).

My mind is more or less made up in that I'm going to try this - I didn't make this post to ask for permission. I know ph's are taboo and go against what's been said a thousand times, but I want firsthand exp. so I'm not another parrot.

For those that have any experience with these things, what are your thoughts/concerns/fears with a stack of compounds like this? Anything in particular I should look out for? ]]> Supplements trafficdodger http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/ph-megaplexx-im-curious-80433/ http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/ephedrine-vs-synephrine-79849/ Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:06:06 GMT Since very little published research compares supplementation of ephedrine to synephrine in lean individuals, I set up a study at the University of Utah that compared these two compounds to one another as well as to a placebo. The test formulations contained either 24 milligrams (mg) of ephedrine... Since very little published research compares supplementation of ephedrine to synephrine in lean individuals, I set up a study at the University of Utah that compared these two compounds to one another as well as to a placebo. The test formulations contained either 24 milligrams (mg) of ephedrine or 10 mg of synephrine. These are the common supplement industry dosages of ephedrine and synephrine.

Both formulas also included 300 mg of caffeine, 12 mg of yohimbe and 200 mg of quercetin.The synephrine mixture also contained 50 mg of Scizonopeta tenuifolla and Ledebouriella divaricata, two Chinese herbs known to produce a warming effect. The study was a double blind, placebo controlled crossover design, and used 20 young healthy subjects, 10 men and 10 women. Resting metabolic rate, respiratory exchange ration, body care temperature, heart rate and blood pressure were measured.

Resting metabolic rate increased significantly with the ephedrine mix versus placebo. The synephrine formula did not significantly elevate resting metabolic rate for any one 15 minute period during the 195 minutes of measurement.

However, by crudely extrapolating the 195 minutes of collected data over a 24 hour period, both the ephedrine and synephrine formulations showed a significant increase in total resting metabolic rate when compared to the placebo. Respiratory exchange ration decreased significantly toward fat burning with only the ephedrine formulation versus placebo. Body core temperature increased greatly with both the ephedrine and the synephrine formulas compared to the placebo. Heart rate was elevated considerably with the ephedrine versus placebo, but not with the synephrine. Blood pressure was elevated significantly following both formulations versus the placebo.

The bottom line here is that although the synephrine formulation seemed to have a mild effect, the ephedrine formulation outperformed synephrine across the board for elevating metabolic rate and shifting respiratory exchange ration toward fat burning. When you compare a synephrine based mixture to an ephedrine based one for fat burning potential, the ephedrine formulations appear to have the edge, based on available research.

Synephrine and ephedrine act differently upon alpha and beta adrenergic receptor sites. Ephedrine is an indirect and direct acting beta agonist with relatively slight activation of the alpha receptors; synephrine is a direct acting alpha agonist with relatively slight activation of beta receptors, via release of norepinephrine and epinephrine. This is important when attempting to determine the potential for fat burning, because the bottom line is that beta receptors, especially beta-3 receptors, are the key to burning fat.

Admittedly, in this study, the dosage of ephedrine and synephrine in each formulation was not equivalent, so these data cannot be considered conclusive; however, those who tout synephrine as superior to ephedrine for the purpose of getting lean are reaching for data that are not in evidence. Direct comparison studies using the same dosage of both ephedrine and synephrine are still needed. At this point, ephedrine has the edge, both in the scientific literature and in the gym, when it comes to fat burning ability.

By Alan E. Shugarman, MS, RD ]]> Supplements INTIMID8OR http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/ephedrine-vs-synephrine-79849/ http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/best-natural-testosterone-booster-79567/ Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:34:26 GMT which *natural testosterone booster* do you think works the best? which natural testosterone booster do you think works the best? ]]> Supplements basskiller http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/best-natural-testosterone-booster-79567/ http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/fat-burners-79528/ Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:44:14 GMT Ok, I like to sometime take fat burners. What do you guys think? At times I do a stack ECA or I just take Xenadrine. Or just the ephedra(Lipodrene). Ok, I like to sometime take fat burners. What do you guys think? At times I do a stack ECA or I just take Xenadrine. Or just the ephedra(Lipodrene). ]]> Supplements Munequita http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/fat-burners-79528/ http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/method-for-capping-orals-when-accuracy-is-must-79346/ Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:16:29 GMT Although there are easier methods out there when it comes to capping orals they produce results that are somewhat less than accurate. I (SV-1) decided to write this article to show you step by step how to produce caps with a high level of accuracy. Credit goes to AnabolicMaster, ColdStone and... Although there are easier methods out there when it comes to capping orals they produce results that are somewhat less than accurate. I (SV-1) decided to write this article to show you step by step how to produce caps with a high level of accuracy. Credit goes to AnabolicMaster, ColdStone and Lozgod who helped make this possible.

Things you will need to make your caps.
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1. A capping device and empty gel caps. The two most popular capping devices are the "Cap-M-Quick" and "The Capsule Machine". The cap-m-quick does 50 caps at a time but you have to manually join the caps by hand. The capsule machine only does 24 caps at a time but automatically joins them for you. Both of these devices can be purchased to use either size "0" or "00" caps (size "0" caps are smaller than size "00"). I prefer the capsule machine and size "0" caps, but either device in either size is fine.

2. A scale to weigh the powders you'll be using to make your caps. I recommend either the Palmscale 5.0 which is accurate to 0.1g and has a capacity of 200g (cost approx $60), or the GemPro-50 which is accurate to 0.002g and has a capacity of 10g (cost approx $150).

3. The powdered version of the compound that you plan on capping. Oral compounds such as Anavar, DNP, Clomid, Dbol, Nolva and Winny make good capping choices. However compounds such as Clen, T3, Femara and Arimidex should never be capped because of their small dose amounts and the inherent inaccuracies of the capping process.

4. A powdered filler that will be used to take up the space in the caps that the active compound doesn't. Almost anything can be used as a filler, Protein Powder, Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate), Corn Starch, Flour, Creatine, Lactose, Glutamine, etc.

5. A mortar and pestle to thoroughly mix the active compound and filler together. Many compounding pharmacies use a mortar and pestle to mix their ingredients together for capping and if it's good enough for them it's good enough for me.


Now that we have everything necessary to make our caps here's how we do it. For the example below I'll use the capsule machine to make 48 caps with 100mg of Aspirin (active compound) and Baking Soda (filler).

1. Load 24 empty caps into the capsule machine, then fill all 24 caps with Baking Soda (tamping powder if final caps will be tamped).

2. Empty all the Baking Soda out of the capsule machine and weigh it. Total weight = 17,160mg

3. Divide that weight (17,160mg) by the number of capsules (24) to get the total weight per cap. 17,160mg / 24 = 715mg a cap.

4. Repeat these steps with the Aspirin powder. Total weight = 11,760mg / 24 = 490mg a cap.

5. Now we need to figure out the ratio of Aspirin to Baking Soda.

100mg Aspirin = Unknown mg of Baking Soda

490mg Aspirin = 715mg Baking Soda


(100mg Aspirin x 715mg Baking Soda) / 490mg Aspirin = 146mg of Baking Soda (this is the Unknown mg of Baking Soda, and how much must be removed to make space for 100mg of Aspirin)


715mg Baking Soda - 146mg = 569mg Baking Soda (this is how much Baking Soda to use per cap)


569mg Baking Soda x 48 caps = 27,312mg Baking Soda

100mg Aspirin x 48 caps = 4800mg Aspirin

So to make 48 100mg Aspirin caps we need 4800mg of Aspirin powder and 27,312mg of Baking Soda.


This is where the simpler methods fail and give inaccurate results. As the chart below shows, different compounds (like Aspirin and Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate)) weigh different amounts for the same volume. If we had simply subtracted 100mg from the Baking Soda we would not have had properly dosed caps, because to fit in 100mg of Aspirin we needed to subtract 146mg of Baking Soda.





Now that we know how much active compound and filler to use (Aspirin and Baking Soda) we need to mix them together. To do this we'll use a mortar and pestle with the geometric dilution method, which was introduced to me by pharmguy24 on AU. What's the geometric dilution method you ask? It's a method used when a small amount of powder needs to be *thoroughly* mixed with a larger amount of powder. To do this you mix all of the smaller powder with an approximately equal amount of the larger powder, this blend is called "mix 1". Then combine all of your "mix 1" with an equal amount of the larger powder and blend again, this is "mix 2". Keep going like this until all the powders have been mixed together.

So we place all of the Aspirin powder (the smaller amount of the two different powders) in the mortar and add an equal amount of the Baking Soda (approximately 4800mg), then blend them together with the pestle for a couple of minutes. This combination is our mix 1, and it is now 9600mg (4800mg Aspirin + 4800mg Baking Soda). After it's been blended for a few minutes add an equal amount of Baking Soda (9800mg) to your mix 1 and blend for a couple more minutes. This combination is our mix 2 and is 19,200mg (9800mg from mix 1 + 9800mg Baking Soda). After it's been blended for a few minutes add the remaining Baking Soda (12912mg) to your mix 2 and blend for a couple more minutes.

Why go to this extra trouble? Because even though we know the amounts of Aspirin and Baking Soda we're using are dead on, our caps will not be dosed properly if the powders are not mixed together very thoroughly.


Now we're ready to make our caps.

1. Load both the base and top of the capsule machine with the empty gel caps (the bottom should already be loaded from weighing the powder for mixing).

2. Place the base on its stand and pour the mixed powder over the empty caps, then spread it around using the supplied plastic card so all the caps are filled.

2a. Optional: At this point you can tamp the powder down and add more powder to the caps increasing the amount they can hold. But because what we want to cap fits fine without doing that we didn't calculate for it and wont be doing it.

3. Attach the top of the capsule machine (which contains the other halves of the caps) to the base.

4. Remove the capsule machine from its stand and press it down on your work surface applying even pressure to join the caps.

5. Remove the top from the capsule machine and press against the spring loaded plate on its back to eject the finished caps.

6. Repeat these steps until all your caps are made.


Follow these guidelines and you too can make your own accurately dosed caps.

from SV-1. ]]> Supplements basskiller http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/method-for-capping-orals-when-accuracy-is-must-79346/ http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/weight-loss-aids-79344/ Thu, 12 Aug 2010 16:58:50 GMT which do you think are the best? Over the counter ones only Post the name brands or product names Thermogenic Fat Burners Stimulant-Free Fat Burners Carb Blockers Fat Blockers Thyroid Hormone Increasers Appetite Suppressants which do you think are the best?
Over the counter ones only
Post the name brands or product names

Thermogenic Fat Burners
Stimulant-Free Fat Burners
Carb Blockers
Fat Blockers
Thyroid Hormone Increasers
Appetite Suppressants
Cortisol Products


Thanks ]]> Supplements basskiller http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f10/weight-loss-aids-79344/