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What Test dosage do you feel best at?

What test dosage do you feel best at, which provides self-being, good pumps in the gym, and sex drive?

Or do you only get 1 or 2 of the benefits at one dosage, and need a different dosage for other effects?
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At 300mg ew I am a lion.
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At 300mg ew I am a lion.
Is that your TRT dosage Hank?

Right now I can't find my zone and haven't for some time. I seem to fall through it and then hit it on the way back up to high dosages. My libido and well being is all over the Fing place. My gains last cycle were awesome, this time even at a little higher dosage, a little flat. I get a good libido for a few days and then it seems to disappear. No rhyme or reason related to dosage.

I run at a Prescribed 200mg cyp every 14 days. That is not enough but my new Dr. is conservative. I used to run at 300mg every 10 days by script.

I am currently cycling again, maybe for my last time before permenant TRT. Even at higher doses on cycle my libido goes to shit.
Proviron, HCG, Clomid, Nolva, and Caber have all been attempt but none of them are a bingo. I don't want to highjack the thread but if anyone out there has suggestions I would love to hear them. My wife is a horndog.
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40 mg MWF. That is an anti aging dose not meant for bodybuilding. Mental clarity, good sex drive youthful-like recovery.
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100mg EW for two weeks, then 300mg EW for two weeks and repeat for infinity
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Hi doses. 1000mg week plus. Going to take a break then run smaller doses since my size is mostly back. Feel ok but nothing to write home about. Think I'm just pissing most of it out now and have acclimated to the high doses.
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70 mg - 280 mg a week.
have had great effects using sub-q.

IM sucks, sucks really bad the last few years when I hit some prior to vacation I feel like absolute shit..would gain 8-15 solid pounds over 4 weeks (as they were long esters) but the up and down (not really stabilizing) of the esters and IM release just sucks.

I feel incredible on sub-q hormone wise and that's all that matters anymore.

so glad I found sub-q from Emeric on PRO-M...I can't imagine managing my hormones in my 50's and 60's with IM injections trying to stabilize blood levels.
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125 mg wk for my TRT. I feel great and can put on muscle pretty well. But I take a few months off every year and bank up script cyp. I do 250 mg wk and feel like I am 21 again.
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70 mg - 280 mg a week.
have had great effects using sub-q.

IM sucks, sucks really bad the last few years when I hit some prior to vacation I feel like absolute shit..would gain 8-15 solid pounds over 4 weeks (as they were long esters) but the up and down (not really stabilizing) of the esters and IM release just sucks.

I feel incredible on sub-q hormone wise and that's all that matters anymore.

so glad I found sub-q from Emeric on PRO-M...I can't imagine managing my hormones in my 50's and 60's with IM injections trying to stabilize blood levels.
I think it also has to do with conversion AAS to estrogen and other compounds. Sub-Q is a totally different beast. First, the individual doses are a to lower. Second the dispersal from the site is slower. So the body is not seeing as large a spike and sees less reason to convert to E, DHT and other compounds that effect mineral and water retention at the kidney.

PM is sort of a unique place. You have guys like Emeric and others that are older statement of the BBing community that peach a different tune than most other and younger bulls. The less is more mantra really takes a hit a lot over there unless it comes from Emeric or a few others but even then there are endless pointed questions. PM also has more than it's share of guys with diagnosed heart and kidney damage. Yet there is the typical rationalization of many many board members that imply or state outright that somehow AAS/PEDs had little or a minor part in the result. PM, in a way, is a testament to the dysfunction in BBing drug use. I use to pipe up more over there but I don't have the interest in fighting with people, google/PubMed searching, digging into my library for references to try and convince someone, that has all the real world evidence in their face, that 4 grams a week with GH, T3, Clen etc very well may send them to the ER or worse. I wrote my articles and stated my case many times. So, now I am mostly a casual observer, especially over there. Matt Porter had some heart damage and went back to very mild AAS use. A few weeks ago he died unexpectedly, probably a PD according to a Dante guess but who knows. A number of guys immediately claimed he was using way way more than he had documented. Always an excuse as to why someone got sick or died. It couldn't possibly have been that he damaged himself and then, even with very mild use even most of the time in the HRT range, use played a major role in killing even one of the most meticulous, health conscious BBER of the generation.

Honestly, I had no idea what I got into with that first shot of deca 30 years ago. If I had known the level of denial, abuse and damage this shit caused in the now bursting community of drug addicts I would have just taken up golf.
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I think it also has to do with conversion AAS to estrogen and other compounds. Sub-Q is a totally different beast. First, the individual doses are a to lower. Second the dispersal from the site is slower. So the body is not seeing as large a spike and sees less reason to convert to E, DHT and other compounds that effect mineral and water retention at the kidney.

PM is sort of a unique place. You have guys like Emeric and others that are older statement of the BBing community that peach a different tune than most other and younger bulls. The less is more mantra really takes a hit a lot over there unless it comes from Emeric or a few others but even then there are endless pointed questions. PM also has more than it's share of guys with diagnosed heart and kidney damage. Yet there is the typical rationalization of many many board members that imply or state outright that somehow AAS/PEDs had little or a minor part in the result. PM, in a way, is a testament to the dysfunction in BBing drug use. I use to pipe up more over there but I don't have the interest in fighting with people, google/PubMed searching, digging into my library for references to try and convince someone, that has all the real world evidence in their face, that 4 grams a week with GH, T3, Clen etc very well may send them to the ER or worse. I wrote my articles and stated my case many times. So, now I am mostly a casual observer, especially over there. Matt Porter had some heart damage and went back to very mild AAS use. A few weeks ago he died unexpectedly, probably a PD according to a Dante guess but who knows. A number of guys immediately claimed he was using way way more than he had documented. Always an excuse as to why someone got sick or died. It couldn't possibly have been that he damaged himself and then, even with very mild use even most of the time in the HRT range, use played a major role in killing even one of the most meticulous, health conscious BBER of the generation.

Honestly, I had no idea what I got into with that first shot of deca 30 years ago. If I had known the level of denial, abuse and damage this shit caused in the now bursting community of drug addicts I would have just taken up golf.
I thank you for the post as you are spot on about PRo M and there could be a separate thread on just that, I haven't posted in years like I used to for the very same reason and have been a member since 2004 there ...I really used to enjoy it but most of the vets have fled or just lurk like us.
I recently went over to view the board to find out how Matt passed and was shocked at the responses.
I scoffed at emeric's ideas for a long time...read everything I could on subq and a lot of info just wasn't there on the science, and many of the searches led me to the transgender websites/message boards as the at the time were the leaders in using it that way.

Once I tried it I was hooked - felt great, lower estro, and reduced hemo and never really any crash due to the reasons you outlined.

I hate what I was and am glad I got out before it took me out, many years before subq I stopped juicing heavy and never went over 600 mg a week .
I hit a few years of heavy GH and test deca tren never really a fan of orals and will admit I miss the mass and strength of those days but will cross it off as youthful mistakes. I realized when I hit 40 and the training started to slip and recoup drop off, that no amount of AAS or GH would ever keep me gaining and progressing, and then each new cycle I became less and less excited about as it really started to feel sides and got tired of bloodletting every month and lectured by the doc on BP. Luckily for me Estrogen was never a problem or lipids, but BP and hemo were bad enough.

I don't know if going back I would have take my first shot of deca either (LOL ironic isn't it?), everything was much simpler back then and AAS were in short supply compared to today.
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