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Old 12-07-2018, 01:23 AM
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Posterior labrum tear and AC joint

Hello, new member here and looking for advice to speed up recovery. I've been struggling with a partial posterior labrum tear, AC joint compression with impingement, and bone marrow edema of my clavicle. Injury occurred following a diving impact on that shoulder during outdoor volleyball. Following day, while flat benching I felt a sharp pain deep inside right shoulder but didn't lose strength. Pain persisted so 3 weeks later I went to orthopedic specialist for exam, x-ray, and MRI. I was told the primary reason was years of degeneration from sports and weight lifting. I was instructed to stop all activities and take 6-9 months to heal. This was 4 months ago and while I now have full range of motion, at certain positions I feel that deep sharp pain. Still cannot flat bench more than 135 lbs without pain. The doctor said follow up if not improving in 6 months and we will look at surgery for labrum, which I am trying to avoid. Any tips?
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I hurt my shoulder as a 19 year old. Not sure exactly what it was but I suspect labrum. Over the next years I had to move away from barbell movements. Chest and shoulders presses. They just agravate it too much. Probably not what you want to hear.

Since then, I've found some machines that work for me, and have been able to do some dumbell work. Perhaps you can find some workaround exercises that work for you.
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I've dislocated both shoulders and rehabbed them doing very very light rotator exercises. When I say light, I'm talking about 5 to 10 pounds max. Very high reps, like in the 30 to 50 plus range. I swear by them. I'm still able to lift heavy today. My range of motion without pain is much better when I do them religiously. I'd try to explain the exercise but too difficult. You'll have to look them up online. Start very slow and easy.
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Brother, I've suffered with ac joint dislocation and partial infraspinatus tear. I would highly recommend looking up Smashwerx on youtube and follow some of his shoulder rehab stuff. It helped me so much that I bought a membership to his site.
I still have some pain but I was unable to do anything overhead or on my back in the way of pressing. Sh Press, dumbell chest press, uprights, machine dip even. I'm back to doing all with lite weight and slowly building up again.
THe rehab protocols are tedious and require some commitment but it's worked very well for me
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Thank you for replies. I'm going to stay away from the barbell and stick to DBs for a month or two to see if there is any improvement. This is more of a mental frustration thing as I know what my arms/chest are capable of. In the meantime I will do extra leg/core days. What P/T exercises did you benefit most from that I could replicate? Would low weight face pulls help, strengthening rotator cuff and support muscles? Or am I being my own worst enemy and just need to leave my shoulder alone and stop being so stubborn?
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That's a tough one Dead.. good luck
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Tore BOTH labrum, a year apart from each other. I had surgery on both for SLAP tears. The right, first one, the surgeon also did some decompression work and shaved some osteoarthritis off the head of the humerus. The left he only repaired the tear and it has annoyed me ever since, I've been told if the cortisone shots don't keep working (they aren't) surgery may be necessary to remove spurs.

I don't do anything much above horizontal with the left unless I really have to. I use dumbbells for my training because they both track differently and a bar kills them. No dips or anything where my elbows are in back of my body and no chins, both used to be my favs, done weighted.

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Look up TOS, Thoracic Outlet Syndrome.....the devil of all impingement issue's...most doctors are ignorant of it, and it's symptoms, and think it's everything else.

The deep sharp pain is obviously not good.....think of a nerve like an egg, they are lined up in a row, the eggshell has been worn off leaving that thin lining exposed, when something touches that lining you get a big short in the signal the nerves are sending and poof nothing works, total shut down...

End's up being tricky because of two things, as long as no touching you seem fine, you touch you short circuit, and it seems very random, each touch though rubs off a little bit more mylin of the nerve, ie, the egg shell, and range of motion limits over a long time, ie, it happens slowly yet surely

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I'll look it up trip. Thank you.
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I should have been posting on here. I will try. Go to an ortho who works with athletes. Mine worked with the 49er's and I also have my BA and MA in sports medicine and did all my own rehab after 7 surgeries. At this point, you will probably need surgery. In general, do nothing behind your head (actually no one really should) and any presses do with a bent arm towards your body, not out at 90 degrees, It is called the angle of scaption. Do not use a barbell. A barbell locks you into a specific ROM.
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