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Hormone Replacement Therapy Learn and discuss more on Testosterone Therapy and Hormone Replacement The role testosterone plays in maintaining youthful Testosterone Levels, alleviating depression, as well as inducing fat loss in those who are unable to reduce body weight regardless of diet and exercise.




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Old 01-27-2017, 06:14 PM
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Trt hcg wtf

I could use some guidance in this area. I've been on TRT for several years by script. I inject Test Cyp twice a week to keep levels balanced. 200mg twice a week for a 400mg wkly total. I'm actually scripted for 250mg twice a week, and at times that's what I use. When I'm not using Mast in my cycle I use 1/2 a tab of Arimidex every third day to keep the boobs away.

So.... these last 6 months my nuts have shrunken down like crazy. I've picked up HCG at the recommendation of several on this board. It's confusing however. The container has one vial of lyophilized Chorionic Gonadotrophin, and one ampoule containing 2ml of 0.9% w/v Sodim Chloride Injection I.P.

I ordered a vial of Bacteriostatatic Water, because I thought I needed that. Now I'm not sure.

The box says, "USE IMMEDIATELY AFTER RECONSTITUTION"

So I guess i have three questions.

FIRST: How do I mix this? I know how to reconstitute, I just don't know if I'm supposed to use the amp and the Bac Water, or how much.

SECOND: What's the proper dosage and frequency for someone staying on TRT?

Third: And third... how in the world do you use it immediately? I can't imagine I'm supposed to take 5,000 I.U. all at once.

I would sure appreciate some guidance, especially if it's from someone who has personal experience in this area.
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FIRST: How do I mix this? I know how to reconstitute, I just don't know if I'm supposed to use the amp and the Bac Water, or how much.

SECOND: What's the proper dosage and frequency for someone staying on TRT?

Third: And third... how in the world do you use it immediately? I can't imagine I'm supposed to take 5,000 I.U. all at once.

I would sure appreciate some guidance, especially if it's from someone who has personal experience in this area.
1. Use the saline. the hCG will last longer.

2. Do 1500 iu twice a week for the first 2 weeks to get your nads up and running again. Then do 500 iu twice a week.

3. You don't use it immediately. It will stay pretty potent for about a month if stored in the refrigerator.
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1. Use the saline. the hCG will last longer.

2. Do 1500 iu twice a week for the first 2 weeks to get your nads up and running again. Then do 500 iu twice a week.

3. You don't use it immediately. It will stay pretty potent for about a month if stored in the refrigerator.
Thanks Glycomann!!!

So it sounds like I should have bought a lot more than 5000 iu of this stuff. I won't even have enough for the first two weeks at this rate.

Do I only run it for 3 weeks?
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Your trt seems pretty high for dr prescribed, my doc wouldn't do anything near that so I just stopped messing with him and use sponsors gear. He prescribed my 200mg/month no where near 2000mg/month lol.
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LOL, yes I know! I don't always run this high, so it lets me stock pile for the day they figure it out. I get to do my own shots, so I started cutting back three weeks before the blood tests so I would always come in low and they'd bump it up. This is totally new in our area, so my doc doesn't really know what they hell is going on. I also acted like I didn't even want to be using test, so they had to convince me I needed it for my health. I just let them keep pushing my amounts up and arguing with them the whole time that we need to find another way. Sadly... there is no other way. LOL You can only imagine how hard it is to keep a grin off my face when I'm in that office.

I also have problems urinating when ever the hot young nurses aide is the one treating me. She has nice little fingers that feel just right checking on that prostrate. So far... no prostrate issues... but you can never be too safe!
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So it sounds like I should have bought a lot more than 5000 iu of this stuff. I won't even have enough for the first two weeks at this rate.

Do I only run it for 3 weeks?
Get a bunch of it. You can get pharma grade for 20 bucks a kit if you look around. I run 2 or 3 kits and then take a break from it. You should keep an eye on your estrogen too since it can pump it up a but.
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So I would run 1500 iu twice a week for the first 2 weeks, then 500 iu twice a week.

Do I stay at 500iu twice a week? For how long? Is this a forever thing if I'm staying on TRT forever? or do I run this for a few weeks and then get off of it?
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So I would run 1500 iu twice a week for the first 2 weeks, then 500 iu twice a week.

Do I stay at 500iu twice a week? For how long? Is this a forever thing if I'm staying on TRT forever? or do I run this for a few weeks and then get off of it?
I cycle it on and off. Whenthe nad shrink up to the point that thay are 1/2 size or so I do anothe course. I also use less test in my TRT. I only use 100 mg/w unless I am doing more of a cycle. So when I use TRT I do first couple weeks like I said at 1500 every 3-4 days. Then I do another kit at 500 twice a week. for another kit. So the whole course would be about 8 weeks. I might also reduce it to 500 once a week and add in Clomid at 25 mg/d for 3 weeks.
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Good info glyco.

can you expound on saline over bact water and why it is better please?
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