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Old 08-08-2017, 12:45 PM
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Increasing fertility

Hey fellas! First, long time no talk. Sorry for being AWOL, been sorta having a nice mid life crisis...lol. Training some but not as much as I should and intensity blows but trying to get back to it so will try to be back here some...keeps my mind on training!

Second, I SWEAR this is really for a friend, I have zero desires to have any children, nor does my wife. So, with that said...

Does anyone have experiences with increasing fertility through HMG/HCG protocols? From what I've read it seems to really not work, but the studies aren't driven towards men on TRT or cycling regulary, that I see at least. My buddy hasn't really done the ground work to check FSH and LH, let alone actually go to a doc to check sperm count but he seems hell bent on thinking he's infertile and is asking if I know of a protocol that can help. I've told him he needs to get blood checked first, including Vit D as well as all the sex hormones of course. He claims he will, but in the meantime does anyone have any experiences, even anecdotal ones, on regaining fertility after years of TRT....or does TRT really make one infertile for that matter?

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Old 08-08-2017, 08:18 PM
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I know a guy on TRT and abusive amounts of aas for many years. Sperm count was near zero. Doc have him hcg and clomid. He became a father quickly.
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I was in the middle of a heavy cycle and we decided to give it a go so I pounded some hcg and knocked up the old lady that month. We lost the baby and tried again a couple months later and same thing. I pounded the hcg, sorry can't remember dosage but again she got pregnant very quickly. I never had any test done to check numbers but I know with what I was doing that I was shut down then when doing the hcg my testicles got noticeably fuller/bigger.
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hmmm, interesting info gents I appreciate it! Seems to go against what the docs claim on this topic but again they don't generate data from people in our shoes really...lol
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The way I look at it is this: if he takes 500 iu hcg 2x EW and 25mg clomid a day, both for eight weeks or so, what's the worst that's gonna happen? Answer is probably nothing negative.
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If HCG and Clomid does not work, sometimes raloxifene will.
He is a good study covering a gamut of meds:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4708300/
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Used HCG and clomid and have a beautiful daughter from it.

Not sure if the HCG and clomid helped but I was just coming off a year long run when the wife said she wanted another child so I stopped gave the "fertility" drugs a try and low and behold she was pregnant.

Not sure the combo of her coming off birth control and me taking the HCG/clomid cocktail was the reason but it got the end result we watnted.
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again appreciate it fellas. My mind is quantitative so i'm trying to convince him to do lots of BW to get a guage, try something, then repeat blood work. My guess is he's going to just try something and hope so I appreciate your feedback, even if it is admittedly anecdotal. much obliged men...
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Gorilla34,

Im going to jump in here, ive got some rather detailed personal experience with this topic. I'll abbreviate and cut out the boring parts.

Ive been on HRT for quite a while, was diagnosed with low test levels at a young age. My girlfriend at the time wanted to have a baby, we wound up splitting up before i could get her pregnant, but the point is this - i was STERIL, not one sperm anywhere to be found. I went to a reproductive specialist who confirmed this. I had blood work as well, it was years ago and i no longer have the tests, but my levels were garbage. I was on the following protocol:

1500 IU HCG 3x a week
75 IU HMG 2x a week
50mg Clomid a day

I went from zero sperm to above normal in 90 days!!! Doc was rather surprised, as was I, but it worked and worked very well. That being said, i also believe that, like anything else, it is individualistic and while i responded very well, other people may not. I was fortunate that insurance covered all the drugs because holy hell they are expensive!!!

Hope that helps, atleast a little bit!

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