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Wait let me clarify my statement lol the only way McGregor will top PPv #’s are if boxing continues to be dysfunctional & major fights aren’t made.

Ain’t no chance in hell McGregkr outsells Fury VS Joshua, Spence VS Crawford, Garcia VS Davis, Crawford VS Taylor. So much potential in boxing

The best Paul fight will outselff McGregor

I’m willing to bet any amount of money on it.
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I simply don't have the passion or interest to delve as deep as you bro. Lol. All you bro.
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I simply don't have the passion or interest to delve as deep as you bro. Lol. All you bro.
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You've made totally valid points. I'm a casual fan. I'd be out of my wheelhouse trying to go into a deep debate.
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TDS, I think Usman Vs. Masvidal in the top 10 shows that MMA is alive and well. 2 not so well known fighters in the main stream and still a top 10 PPV of all time. PPV numbers keep going up on average. Here is a chart that shows it is not waning but growing at a great rate.

Boxing is alive and well but so spread out. The talent in MMA is mostly with the UFC and then Bellator has some really good guys.
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TDS, I think Usman Vs. Masvidal in the top 10 shows that MMA is alive and well. 2 not so well known fighters in the main stream and still a top 10 PPV of all time. PPV numbers keep going up on average. Here is a chart that shows it is not waning but growing at a great rate.

Boxing is alive and well but so spread out. The talent in MMA is mostly with the UFC and then Bellator has some really good guys.
First, your chart is outdated as hell lol

Second, Masvidal is definitely UFC mainstream & him along with McGregor & Nate Diaz are your top 3 fighters as far as popularity.

Also Usman VS Masvidal was mid pandemic & as a result had everybodyís attention. Masvidal doing what he did on short notice made it a compelling rematch. Masvidal is the star not Usman which is crazy to say.

Have you heard of whatís happening with Ngannou? You donít find that crazy? You donít think other fighters feel the same way? Dana White gets away with lots of shady shit & itís about to catch up with him.

My prediction is based on a few things:

1st) Dana White is a POS & need to start paying fighters, specifically top fighters.

I like how his argument is, the UFC pays the bottom tier fighters more then boxing pays the bottom tier fighters.

First off if a fighter makes it to the UFC, heís already past the stage where he was getting paid $100 or whatever at some rinky dink promotion that fights at nightclubs or some crap like that.

Look up the history of UFC paydays & youíll see what Iím talking about.

Thereís a reason Masvidal & Diaz are showing up to Paul bro fights lol, you donít see Canelo there, do yíall?

Dana White talks so much shit & does the same shit.

When speaking on Woodley, he said Woodley was washed & lost his last 4 fights in the UFC.

Ok cool, you got a point.

But donít turn around & try to sell us Diaz VS McGregor as a top fight when theyíve lost 3 out of 4 & look pretty washed to.

Iím a Nate Diaz fan btw lol

Basically what Iím saying is this. The UFC has the advantage that it gots the top talent under one roof & hypothetically any matchup can be ordered.

But that top talent is getting smart & I predict top talent will leave if Dana White continues to be a POS & Ngannou sounds like heís about to be just that.

Imo thereís no excuse for your top talent/ guys to not be making 1 million. How tf are you saying youíre having record years but canít pay your too giys more?

But research it, UFC is having more events that why itís having record years.

Now on to boxing you said itís too sore as out, my argument is that itís starting to come together I see several matchups & several up & coming fighters that can lead boxing to blow MMA out if the water.
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Boxing needs to market better if they want to get casual fans watching more. In the 90's and early 2000's you would see boxing advertisements on television all the time. We would tune into Tuesday and Friday night fights, because we were reminded constantly the fight was coming up. If you had HBO or Shotime you would see their upcoming fights advertised a few times a day. Now that streaming is taking over people see less and less reoccurring advertisements. I rarely if ever see anything on boxing anymore. I might see a PBC promotion pop up if I am watching college football on ESPN, but that is about it. However, the UFC pops up all the time and when I am on ESPN+ and scrolling it is almost always on the page.

The advertisements are not based on what I prefer or watch either, as I almost never watch MMA anymore and I am always searching for boxing.
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Boxing needs to market better if they want to get casual fans watching more. In the 90's and early 2000's you would see boxing advertisements on television all the time. We would tune into Tuesday and Friday night fights, because we were reminded constantly the fight was coming up. If you had HBO or Shotime you would see their upcoming fights advertised a few times a day. Now that streaming is taking over people see less and less reoccurring advertisements. I rarely if ever see anything on boxing anymore. I might see a PBC promotion pop up if I am watching college football on ESPN, but that is about it. However, the UFC pops up all the time and when I am on ESPN+ and scrolling it is almost always on the page.

The advertisements are not based on what I prefer or watch either, as I almost never watch MMA anymore and I am always searching for boxing.
I agree with that & I think thatís starting to happen.

& thatís basically part of my argument, the UFC is a much better run company & Dana White can technically order any fight.

But they still canít break a million buys without McGregor.

The next year will be telling for sure. But again, speaking on a pure talent level basis, Boxing is primed for a golden era.
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I heard on a podcast that the Paul/Woodley rematch bombed in ppv. Supposedly less than 70k. I haven't looked into it to verify.
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Saw that too, thatís good news to me. Must be why theyíre begging all these ufc guys to come fight them lol

Crazy thing, theyíre still paying them more then the UFC pays
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