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Exclamation How can I cycle this pharms? (Clen/Efe/T4-T3)

I want to use:
- Clenbuterol
- ECA stack
- T3/T4
- Modafinil (I need to be focused at work)

And I want to cycle it in tampering down, for example:
T3 + Efe
T4 + Clen

How can i set the dosages and the lifecycle for loss 10kg/22lbs in 3-6 months?

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T3 and T4 are often used together for 2-4 weeks. Some believe longer cycles can permanently disrupt the thyroid. Dosage depends on the brand. Clen and ECA are best when alternated. The body quickly adjusts to Clen and it is best when used for 2-3 weeks. To me these compounds should be used for competition prep. If you are just trying to lose some weight then diet and cardio is your best bet. Can you provide us some stats and your average diet?
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T3 and T4 are often used together for 2-4 weeks. Some believe longer cycles can permanently disrupt the thyroid. Dosage depends on the brand. Clen and ECA are best when alternated. The body quickly adjusts to Clen and it is best when used for 2-3 weeks. To me these compounds should be used for competition prep. If you are just trying to lose some weight then diet and cardio is your best bet. Can you provide us some stats and your average diet?
Hello Sir,

179cm (30.7) x 78-82kg (172-181lbs, depends what day), bodyfat 15-17%.

I tried to lose weight in the last past 1 year, but without success (or minimum).

I known how to eat and how to work (teorically). In the last year I studied very much the field of nutrition, but the problem is the real excess of hunger (probably, for a surplus of white adipocides).

My question is when I stop the first cycle of t3 o t4 how many time has to pass for next cycle?

p.s. t4 is from *****, for t3 I have to choose the online market.

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Hello Sir,

179cm (30.7) x 78-82kg (172-181lbs, depends what day), bodyfat 15-17%.

I tried to lose weight in the last past 1 year, but without success (or minimum).

I known how to eat and how to work (teorically). In the last year I studied very much the field of nutrition, but the problem is the real excess of hunger (probably, for a surplus of white adipocides).

My question is when I stop the first cycle of t3 o t4 how many time has to pass for next cycle?

p.s. t4 is from *****, for t3 I have to choose the online market.

thank you and sorry for english mistakes
At least time off being equal to time on. For example if you use T3/T4 for three weeks you should take three weeks off. Personally I would take twice the time off.
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I have never used T3 or T4. GF has good advice there for ya. As for the clen and ECA I would alternate like GF said then take at least 2 weeks off to let your CNS settle down.

Diet is 85% of it. You can loose fat with diet and cardio. Your body just might not be responding to the diet you chose. Ever do Keto diet?
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I have never used T3 or T4. GF has good advice there for ya. As for the clen and ECA I would alternate like GF said then take at least 2 weeks off to let your CNS settle down.

Diet is 85% of it. You can loose fat with diet and cardio. Your body just might not be responding to the diet you chose. Ever do Keto diet?
Hello Sir.,

I'm don't think keto diet is the best choice when you use clen, efe, t4 or t3, because of:
- Efe don't allow to enter in ketosis;
- Low carb is good with clen but not optimal keto diet (you need 100g+ CHO/die)
- If you use only T4: the best choice is with low-carb because the convertion of thyroxine to triiodothyronine is limited;

but i can have wrote mistakes

p.s. Actually I'm natural BB with normal physique, I'm not too fat or too skinny, but I need to reduce my body fat to 8-12% so I can make surgery to remove the excess of white adipocytes.

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Tom, I get it. Never be happy with what you have but you look better than 99% of the people in the world.

I understand ECA and Keto together can raise stress hormones and have adverse effects at higher doses but in moderation. Along with ashwagandha which helps lower cortisol, TMG which controls homocysteine. This will allow you to run a moderate ECA with keto and not have the stress markers increase.

(Not sure about T3 or T4 with keto)

I was really speaking of keto in general. I can drop a lot of BF in a short period of time with just keto and training. I can get leaner with keto than I can with a traditional diet and ECA. We are all different, maybe your body does not respond to keto like mine.
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