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Alternatives to Tren.

What's your opinion? It has its advantages. But for some the disadvantages outweigh the good. So there's got to be an alternative.
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Not saying it’s even close to the same but I’ve already talked others & when my tren days are over I’ll be switching to NPP.
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Big man..nothing will compare to trn IMO.

Masteron? You ever give that a try? No it wont burn the fat like tren so Im not saying it would be tren substitute..BUT I do think it would be a safer option.
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Not saying itís even close to the same but Iíve already talked others & when my tren days are over Iíll be switching to NPP.
This. Npp is a mild version of tren...
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For me, high dose Anavar is next best thing. I love Tren and nothing really comes close to Tren for complete body composition change, strength and muscle preservation. With that being said, I can run between 100-120mg daily of Var (although harsh on my lipids) I'm able to increase lbs while decreasing body fat on a calorie restricted diet and strength gains are surprisingly effective. I've always used some form of Test as a base. I like NPP but haven't really used it enough to give a definitive opinion.

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For me, high dose Anavar is next best thing. I love Tren and nothing really comes close to Tren for complete body composition change, strength and muscle preservation. With that being said, I can run between 100-120mg daily of Var (although harsh on my lipids) I'm able to increase lbs while decreasing body fat on a calorie restricted diet and strength gains are surprisingly effective. I've always used some form of Test as a base. I like NPP but haven't really used it enough to give a definitive opinion.

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Var is awesome (if good quality that is) but like you said, it messes with lipid levels. I just donít do orals anymore, besides dnp. Never had liver issues but damn, liver disease been skyrocketing that I just donít wanna do anything hardly that affects the liver. Damn, even prescription meds are harsh on your liver...

NPP is a mild compound. Solid gains. Another good choice is primo. Moderate dosages long term seems to be very effective. Again, you have to find good quality...
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If you haven’t tried orals that claim to be similar / related, don’t bother.

Years ago I tried one and it was awful - mediocre strength gains, painful on the liver, and negative emotional response. Blegh.
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Parabolan is the only thing that would compare and it was far superior to tren. I have read that tren hex is similiar but I don't know if that is true. The real para has been gone for years. Maybe some of the chem guys could chime in.

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(Trenbolone Base + HexaHydroBencyl Carbonate Ester)
[17beta-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one]
Formula: C20 H24 O3
Molecular Weight (base): 270.3706
Molecular Weight (ester):130.1864
Formula (base): C18 H22 O2
Melting Point (base): 183-186C
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Effective Dose (Men): 300-500mgs/week
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Agree with Mustang high dose quality Var will do some majic without the sides, not quite tren but pretty dayum good
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