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Hormone Replacement Therapy Learn and discuss more on Testosterone Therapy and Hormone Replacement The role testosterone plays in maintaining youthful Testosterone Levels, alleviating depression, as well as inducing fat loss in those who are unable to reduce body weight regardless of diet and exercise.




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Help!! Started gym and test levels dropped further??

I’ve posted previously with my results.
I believe I have low T with the feedback that was previously provided.

When was much younger i dabbled with anabolics (stupidly) as wasn’t too sure with what i was doing… trained with another guy who assured me that he knew wat he was doing.
Long story short, i did a course of deca and test, just 1 pin p/w, didnt seem like a big pr major course for a 6 week period, felt as if had deca dick off it… i waited a while and visited Dr whom said body would sort itself out…

I dont think it did, after getting help was advised yrs ago to do a course of test (sustanon) and did a basic PCT - shot of hcg and then nolvadex/clomid for approx a wk or so (Please note that it was a different time yrs ago and couldn’t just go upto somebody and starting asking about loss of libido/deca dick/erection issues as can now) so literally did the best i could.

I now have a private medical appointment scheduled to see a urologist soon after a lot persisting with my GP. I have had low T results (well apparently low range of normal as doc says - 9.6 nmol on first test and 10.8 nmol on 2nd)

I’ve got the usual symptoms of brain fog, tiredness, no morning wood, no erections (unless days) ED, PE, achy balls at times… balls feel soft but not small… read that loss of hair on legs is a sign which i have on one leg lower down , joint pain and just tenderness and loss of strength etc… breathing issues (hearts been checked out by ecg and its fine…

I’m just worried as if low T then can cause heart issues/major issues if left untreated.

The above is what I posted quite a few months ago - Feb 2022.

I've been going to the gym for a few months now and have gained muscle and do feel much fitter, however had another blood test for testosterone and levels have dropped to 7.7??

I'm absolutely devasted and worried sick now as that's well low and not really sure what to do. I've just been advised to get on zinc piclonate and magnesium which is what I'm doing now but the only option for TRT (in UK) on NHS is Testogel which is terrible I've heard and the other is Nebido which has massive peaks and troughs!!

Any advice very welcome please?!
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If you are clinically being prescribed TRT and do not like your options, you could check online for wellness clinics that will prescribe test of your liking. If you don't want to go that route you could just do your own TRT and not tell your doctor...
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I'm not sure how it works in the UK. Here I would jsut get a script for Test Cypionate and fill in the gaps with what I can get if the doc doesn't prescribe. Here you can get blood work purchased online without a doc. Actually there is a doc associated with the service who signs off. If it was me I would be on TRT, sustanon or what is possible and get blood work as needed.
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I'm not sure how it works in the UK. Here I would jsut get a script for Test Cypionate and fill in the gaps with what I can get if the doc doesn't prescribe. Here you can get blood work purchased online without a doc. Actually there is a doc associated with the service who signs off. If it was me I would be on TRT, sustanon or what is possible and get blood work as needed.
You can get bloodwork done there as well without a doctor. Dave Crosland on Think Big Body Building is in the UK and runs E-Val Blood Analysis.
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Thanks Guys, I'm being offered TRT via Nebido 1 x 3 months, but being told if levels dropped by 10 wks will do again. Has anybody got any good reviews of this and this dosing protocol?
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Thanks Guys, I'm being offered TRT via Nebido 1 x 3 months, but being told if levels dropped by 10 wks will do again. Has anybody got any good reviews of this and this dosing protocol?
Never taken it personally, but from the studies I have read right around 8 weeks you are going to notice a considerable drop. Will you still be in the normal range? No clue, as half lives on AAS can be skewed by many different factors. It will probably be lower normal if still in the normal range. If the doctor is checking blood at 10 weeks and sees that it has dropped then ask them to switch up the protocol. If they are a decent doctor they should anyways.
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Something else you can do, that is dirt cheap, is to buy some boron, and take 9-12mg/d. It will help increase your free testosterone levels. It's like $3-6.00 on Amazon, not sure how much in the UK or elsewhere in health stores, but 6 mg am and 6mg pm is where most find it ideal. Just something cheap and easy you can throw in and see if it helps. If you throw it in a month or two prior to blood work, you can compare levels and see if it's helped you out at all. If not, then it was cheap, and you can toss it back out. If it works, then it may be good to keep in, or cycle in and out
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If that’s all you can get, get it IMO. You are going to feel amazing after that first injection. I know I did! I mean, wasnt Nebido (test U) but test C. Sounds like the Dr will test and make sure your not dropping too low. But I bet even on the last week you will probably feel better than you do right now. Just keep the Dr informed if you have any issues and hopefully he will make proper adjustments.
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Something else you can do, that is dirt cheap, is to buy some boron, and take 9-12mg/d. It will help increase your free testosterone levels. It's like $3-6.00 on Amazon, not sure how much in the UK or elsewhere in health stores, but 6 mg am and 6mg pm is where most find it ideal. Just something cheap and easy you can throw in and see if it helps. If you throw it in a month or two prior to blood work, you can compare levels and see if it's helped you out at all. If not, then it was cheap, and you can toss it back out. If it works, then it may be good to keep in, or cycle in and out
Yep, I take 6 mg in the morning and evening. Works great for me.
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