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Not my thoughts but an interesting perspective from an abuser.
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I got six minutes in. Me likes, he's actually thinking things threw a loud.
Definitely watching the whole thing.

Ur thoughts, are best guess, the generally accepted peak possibilities per our age appropriate bodies.

As always mileage and results will vary.

fwiw, me thinks, all i need are little dabs i'll do you
primo test gh nothing more or less once i've dialed in the direction
still tweeking the dials
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20 minutes in, very good video
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Here area couple structures that seem to work at least for me.

Cycle structures

Test
Primary Anabolic: EQ, Deca, NPP, Primobolan
Secondary Anabolic: EQ, Deca, NPP, Primobolan, 1-Test cypionate,
Dry oral: Turinabol, Anavar, Winstrol
Wet Oral: Dianabol, Anadrol
Strong Androgen: Trenbolone Ace, Tren enanthate, Tren hex, 1-Test cypionate

GH axis
GH
GHRP2
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CJC1295 DAC

Structures

8-4-8-4-8
1-8 Test 100-300 mg; Primary Anabolic 300-600 mg
3-8 Secondary Anabolic or wet/dry oral 300-500 mg
1-8 GH axis compound i.e. GH 2-4 iu 5/7

9-12 Test 100-150 mg; GHRP2 200 mcg 2x/d

13-20 Test 100-300 mg; Primary Anabolic 300-600 mg
16-20 Secondary Anabolic or wet/dry oral 300-500 mg
13-20 GH axis compound i.e. GH 2-4 iu 5/7

21-24 Test 100-150 mg; GHRP2 200 mcg 2x/d

25-32 Test 100-300 mg; Primary Anabolic 300-600 mg
28-32 Secondary Anabolic or wet/dry oral 300-500 mg
13-20 GH axis compound i.e. GH 2-4 iu 5/7

This is designed so that estrogen control should not be needed if compounds are chosen to limit estrogen conversion. Test is at or close to TRT levels. However, some individuals may need to add such a compound(s). You can use this scheme to bulk then cut. Start with a mass building segment. Tighten diet in the first cruise. then cut in the second 8 week segment. Continue clean dieting in second cruise. Maintain or peak in the third 8 week segment. By the end of the 3rd 8 week segment I would recommend a long off period or low TRT/HRT. This is a long cycle and will lead to stress.

Rotation
1 Test 100-300; Primary Anabolic 1 400-600
2 Test 100-300; Primary Anabolic 2 400-600
3 Test 100-300; Primary Anabolic 3 400-600
4 EQ 500-800 mg
5 Test 100-300; Primary Anabolic 1 400-600
6 Test 100-300; Primary Anabolic 2 400-600
7 Test 100-300; Primary Anabolic 3 400-600
8 EQ 500-800 mg
9 Test 100-300; Primary Anabolic 1 400-600
10 Test 100-300; Primary Anabolic 2 400-600
11 Test 100-300; Primary Anabolic 3 400-600
12 EQ 500-800 mg
1-12 GH 2-4 iu

This is designed so that estrogen control should not be needed if compounds are chosen to limit estrogen conversion. Test is at or close to TRT levels. However, some individuals may need to add such a compound(s). The impact of this cycle is counter-intuitive. One might think that blood levels of compounds would make for a lot of side effects. The opposite turns out to be the case. I have done this a few times. The sides are very low.EQ week turns out to be the driest and hornyest week for me.

Androgen burst
1-12 Test 100-300 mg; Primary Anabolic 400-600 mg/w
3-6 Strong androgen 200-500 mg (Tren ace 25-50 mg/d micro-dose slin pin)
7-12 Dry Oral 210-420 mg/w
1-12 GH axis compound(s) (i.e. GH 2-4 iu; GHRP2 200 mcg before bed)

This is designed so that estrogen control should not be needed if compounds are chosen to limit estrogen conversion. Test is at or close to TRT levels. However, some individuals may need to add such a compound(s). This is a pretty strong hardener cycle. Very good for recomp. I like this one with Primo, Tren Ace and Anavar.


Traditional pyramid
1-2 Test 200; Primary anabolic 300 mg
3-4 Test 400; Primary anabolic 500 mg
5-6 Test 400; Primary anabolic 700 mg; wet/dry oral 30-50 mg/d
7-8 Test 400; Primary anabolic 700 mg; wet/dry oral 30-50 mg/d
9-10 Test 400; Primary anabolic 500 mg
11-12 Test 200; Primary anabolic 300 mg
1-12 Estrogen control as needed

Some folks find pyramiding to work well. Most cycles peak at about week 8-9. This pyramid recognizes this phenomenon. Rather than attempting to re-route efforts to overcome the week 8 stall, and thus increase stress on the system, this cycle slowly adjusts the dose down relieving stress on the body. Note that the schema is designed to maximize anabolic environment leading up to the week 8 mark before the stall. In general some water retention in and outside of the muscle is lost by week 12. Some confuse this with loss of gains. If one is lean this can be a period where one can see more definition as the water retention leaves from beneath the skin.
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Current thoughts:

Not looking to put on more muscle. More or less looking to hold what I have, recover faster and recomp as I go.

1-8 Test 100-150 mg; Masteron 300-400 mg; GH 2 iu/d; hCG 500 iu 1-2x/w

9-12 TRT; GH 2 iu/d

13-20 Test 100-150 mg; NPP 300 mg; GH 2 iu/d; hCG 500 iu 1-2x/w
17-20 EQ 400 mg

21-24 TRT; GH 2 iu/d

25-32 Test 100-150 mg; Tren Ace 150 mg/w; GH 2 iu/d; hCG 500 iu 1-2x/w

Additions: Add in GHRP2 or swapped out GH for it.
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I prefer GHRP6 over GHRP2. Even tho they state GHRP2 is stronger, I never got the same results as GHRP6 gives me.
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I prefer GHRP6 over GHRP2. Even tho they state GHRP2 is stronger, I never got the same results as GHRP6 gives me.
6 makes me fat.
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6 just makes me hypoglycemic every time I inject it. Then I get fat.
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So I did GH on and off for about 10 months.

Here's what it did for me.
1. Made the bones inside my mouth grow.
2. Made it easier to floss.
3. Made the scar tissue in my knee grow.
4. Made my feet and hands swell.
5. Sometimes I filled in more than usual upon eating.
6. Made me sleepy at work.
7. Slept really well.
8. Made my joints ache at anything above 1 iu no matter how I ramped it.

Things it didn't do
1. Did not make me huge
2. Did not make me any leaner at all
3. Did not heal any injuries

Best time to use it was post workout 3 iu.

For 3 weeks after going off it I was up every hour. Could not sleep for crap.

Verdict: GH is extremely over rated unless you have great genetics for it. I feel better now off it.
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Still feeling better off GH. These days I am liking EQ/Primo/Test E with a tad of TB500 and BPC 157 with a smitge of hCG here and there. I seem to look either better or no different without GH.
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