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Undergroundsupplements Newsletter Issue # 2

NOTICE: No liability is assumed by Underground Supplements or the authors for any information contained herein. This text does not contain medical advise. Specific medical advise should be obtained from a licensed health practitioner. Neither Underground Supplements nor the authors advocate, promote or encourage the use of anabolic steroids or other illegal drugs. The information contained in this publication is not intended to induce or persuade anyone to use or possess anabolic steroids or any other illegal drugs Any references made directly about the effects of anabolic steroids, about obtaining anabolic steroids are for information/entertainment purposes only and are expressions of the authors opinions. This publication is an attempt for a practical source of information, rather than scientific.

Letter from the Tazmanian Devil

Welcome to the second installment of our newsletter. The first one is what one would describe a bona-fide hit. I received a lot of thank-you's and praise. I do appreciate it. I would like to take a minute and thank the people who wrote in articles and contributed in many different ways. I could not have done it without you. I look forward to working with you in the future. I also would like to take the time to introduce you to Doctoroid. Doctoroid is one of the newest members of the Underground and I've invited him to do be a writer for the Vae Victus. I'm very glad that he has volunteered his time to help us and to inform us in the many aspects of bodybuilding. Not to leave anyone else out, as you read this months articles, you will see some articles written by new members of the Underground. I am very glad that they also took the time to put their thoughts and experiences down on paper so that the readers out there can learn or be entertained by them. So welcome!

Authors: Tazzy, Needful, Motorhead, CE, Heavy Iron, JT, Hydroxyl, Doctoroid

Letter from Doctoroid

A little background on myself first, followed by snippets of what I consider to be important aspects of juicin'. I first used steroids 5 years ago, weighing 145lbs at 5'8". My first cycle lasted 8 weeks and I gained 20lbs. My goal with bodybuilding, well it was really 'weight training', back then, so I was to get up to 190lbs and I thought I'd be happy having been 'skinny' all my life. I never had any intentions to compete, just wanted to look and feel good about myself. Well 5 years later I'm still growing, peaking at 250lbs 3 months ago and thinking of competing next fall. Over the last 3 months I have changed my focus, well actually regained my focus, 'cause I realized I was chasing the scales and ignoring the dude in the mirror with the large waist size. I have always fed off comments like..." your too big to be a doc" or "you sure you're not a bouncer"...well I was actually 2 years ago! Good job actually through 'em out one door, and stitched 'em up in my medical practice the next day!
Since losing the body fat with the aid of aspirin/caffeine/ephedrine stacks twice a day for a month or so, I couldn't believe the improvement in my health and feeling of well-being. The effectiveness of this stack was greater than I had ever experienced with clenbuterol and I never had to put up with the tremor/shakes of the latter. I stopped the C/A/E stack when at night in bed I noticed persistent skipped heart beats. This wasn't really a problem for me but felt I'd done enough anyway. It is now just as cool to here comments from other guys in my gym saying how much smaller my waist is and how much more definition I have. I know this is boring and egotistical shit, but the moral here is DON'T LOSE FOCUS in your bodybuilding. I've recently started a basic Sustanon DTD (Decrease The Days) cycle together with a constant weekly oil called NANDRABOLIN (Nandralone cypionate/Methandriol Dipropionate). I am very happy with the gains so far. I've put on 13lbs in 2 weeks. When the gains slow down or plateau I'll switch to another oil or perhaps oral 5mg ANABOL tabs for a while.
Over the last 5 years from my own experience and from the many patients I see, I have found that everyone of us is DIFFERENT when it comes to how we respond to anabolic steroids and the side effects they may cause. For instance I find Anapolan is no better for me as far as mass increase or strength increase than a good old testosterone and test is much safer. THERE ARE NO SET RULES HERE. There is no absolute right way to do roids, but plenty of wrong ways.
For the first timer/newbie I recommend that you keep it simple. I know there is an enormous amount of information in the books and now the Internet and I know you keen newbies want to get the absolute very best out of your first cycle. I see many postings on the boards from guys for their first cycle that want to know if such and such with this and that, followed by something else, but what if I do this before that, sort of thing. You guys will grow on the sniff of an oily rag! Trust me, your first cycle should be very simple and you will grow no worries...but don't forget guys to eat like a horse!
For example a Sust DTD on it's own or in combination with an oil like Deca would be just fine. This keeps your costs down and side effects low (hopefully). You don't have a clue how sensitive you may be to gyno or whether zits are going to cover your arms/back, so by keeping your doses low and items 'safe' on your first cycle you shouldn't get yourself into any great dramas.
ALWAYS keep a week to week diary of your cycles noting juice used, how much used and your weight each week. This way you can refer back to them in the future to remind you what worked better and what was a waste of good gear. Watch out for the development of gyno after a cycle as well. I made the 'fatal' mistake of stopping my Nolvadex on the last week of a cycle only to develop some gyno after my cycle. So continue to take anti-estrogen's such as Proviron or nolvadex or both for up to 4 weeks after a cycle.
Don't use HCG on it's own to boost your testicular production of testosterone. This only suppresses your pituitary/testis axis more and prolongs your balls 'agony'. Therefore ALWAYS follow with Clomid AFTER the HCG. Clomid stimulates your pituitary gland to get it functioning again . BTW HCG is EVIL for causing gyno. As for off cycles, try to stay off for as long as your previous roid cycle i.e. 10 weeks on 10 weeks off. This minimizes side effects such as testicular suppression and liver problems and more importantly, your receptors will be more sensitive and will respond better on your next cycle for better gains. If you must get on the gear again sooner, try to hold out as long as possible. This can be helped by starting creatine monohydrate on the last week of your cycle. This stacked with clen for it's mild anabolic properties and strength enhancement will allow you to stay off longer. When you weight or strength starts to quickly drop then go on again,


Finally, the use of insulin in bodybuilding seems very popular. I spent $4000 on Human Growth Hormone once. I wish I had spent that money on juice instead! I know I'd be a bigger guy for it! I was looking for that edge... that something magical. Trust me when I say there is nothing magical out there and that includes insulin. I consider insulin to be only an AID to training.
IT IS NOTHING MAGICAL. It can sure make you big...if you like being mistaken for the Michelin Man!! If you must use it at all, and this should only be after you are well into your second or third year of weight training, then use it sparingly at the rate of 1-2iu per 20lbs bodyweight i.e. 220lbs=11-22iu. There are various "ideas" ....see that "ideas"....nobody truly knows the absolute best method on when exactly to take it. If you must use it first take it after a workout followed with a carb/protein chaser. Start off on a smaller dose, say 5iu and gradually work up to the rate I mentioned. Currently I favor taking insulin before a workout but you MUST be drinking a carb drink throughout your workout and of course eat after your workout. I use it this way to develop a nice pump and resultant strength increase in my workouts. I have taken VERY LARGE doses up to 3 times a day and grew nothing but fat. Sure I'm certain there was some extra muscle there somewhere but it was covered by 'love handles'!
AND FINALLY in order of importance, in your desire to get as massive as possible (that's me!) or even to put on a nice bit of size hat you can be proud of and get satisfaction from,

3. ROIDS............................................. ......but hey what would I know, that's just my opinion, cya)


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