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Reading this thread, I am wondering for what purposes y'all are using gear? TRT? Maintenance? More muscle?
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I love this stuff at a small to medium dose. It puts lean pounds on me in addition to the a aesthetic value it brings. For the first time last year I got too see it on me in the final month of a comp prep at 100mg a day which is a high dose and you could see my heart beat in several places in my body, take my pulse without touching me. Pretty achy in the joints at that dose. It 100% gave me the finished polished look I was seeking to be onstage. I did use an AI, drop all other compounds, cut food down to a sparrow snack, and run daily as if a bear were chasing me. All this helped the winni do its thing: dry, hard, full and grainy.

Even at small amounts it does invert my LDL and HDL. Doc saw bloodwork on me once while I was using winstrol and he threw a shit fit. Srsly let me have it with both barrels. But he didn’t say anything when I used it to compete just advised I tone it down in the gym since I’m old and had no heart protection with good colesterol.

I feel good on it and have great libido and it does get kinda hard on the hairline.

Used to combine it with masterone and tren and an AI with a clean diet and get phukking hard and chiseled. But those are the good old days when pappy wasn’t old.

A buddy of mine was in his second test cycle a while back and got huge. He goes 6-4 225 lean. This cycle had him super lean at 245. After 12 weeks of 16 of test and With 4 weeks left in the cycle I tossed him a bottle of winstrol and told him to eat 50mg a day til it was gone past when he dropped the test. Dude he looked incredible. Went from bulked to striated with muscle separation id never seen on him before. And gained another 15 pounds!!! And looked like he’s gained 30.

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I should have been more precise. My question is aimed at the older members (i.e., past 60 y.o.). Me, I'm just 70 now. I look much younger, but that's on the outside. I am pretty sure I'm going to start a smallish cycle soon because I think I can put back some of what I lost thanks to various medical events. I have no illusions that I my aging tissues will respond like 30, even 20 years ago. I will try to help that with YK-11 and hesperidin. Even so, I have no ego about not being able to train as hard.
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I should have been more precise. My question is aimed at the older members (i.e., past 60 y.o.). Me, I'm just 70 now. I look much younger, but that's on the outside. I am pretty sure I'm going to start a smallish cycle soon because I think I can put back some of what I lost thanks to various medical events. I have no illusions that I my aging tissues will respond like 30, even 20 years ago. I will try to help that with YK-11 and hesperidin. Even so, I have no ego about not being able to train as hard.
I hope your recovery goes well. I'm trying to stick with things that are as close to pharma grade as possible especially as I age. I started this thread based on an idea to try and get to the root of the aging issue and increased side effects of stanozolol. Probably it's best to just leave it alone in my case rather than try to figure out the mechanism for the change.
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I typically over the years have almost always tried to add winny tabs to my cycle. The BEST results were 13yrs ago and I was doing 750mg enth/wk and 100mg/ed of winny. It was circumstantial and the best results I've ever had. When I say circumstantial, I needed strength gains as quickly as possible due to being on work release (understand?). I was benching my PB and no one ....ed w/ me. I ate like a horse, looked thick and solid and went about my life best as possible.

Now, with age, I have to tell you. As much as I love the strength and hardness that winny gets, I just don't think my elbows and shoulders can take the dryness anymore. I've tried 25mg/day at my age (45) and I don't feel much benefit that I can see (b/c I'm inpatient more than likely), but I also don't see sides from it either. I even try 25mg x2/ed but, the older I get the more sore my joints and tendons feels when taking things that dry me out.

Also to note, I also take DHEA as part of my daily and it didn't seem to have any specific impact on my joint and tendon pain. Not sure if that has any significance or not.
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My only experience with winny wasn't good. Perhaps it wasn't Winny at all? I noticed after a short time taking it my lower back started hurting. Then my piss was getting darker until it was like I was pissing brown sludge. I figured it was doing something to my kidneys so I got off it.

Totally forgot about that experience, and wondering why I hadn't used this stash of winny I had, I tried it again a couple years later. Oh yeah, now I remember. Same result.
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My only experience with winny wasn't good. Perhaps it wasn't Winny at all? I noticed after a short time taking it my lower back started hurting. Then my piss was getting darker until it was like I was pissing brown sludge. I figured it was doing something to my kidneys so I got off it.

Totally forgot about that experience, and wondering why I hadn't used this stash of winny I had, I tried it again a couple years later. Oh yeah, now I remember. Same result.
Nope, sounds like winny tabs at high to moderate dose. Especially when not taking any preventatives or not being hydrated enough.
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